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Jim@SNHU
07-29-2005, 03:56 PM
Here is a spot to provide pointers to useful Alice documentation.
For example, is there a list of the common methods and properties of objects and what these do?
Is there documentation on concepts like "orientation", and how the PointOfView vectors can be manipulated at execution time?
(I do have the, now published, Learning To Program with Alice, but alias (which may be Alice spelled backwards ;) ) this book does not have such a definative list.

Enjoy
Jim

pausch
07-30-2005, 10:16 AM
Excellent question. The recently published textbook has some handy "lists of common things" on the inside of the front and back covers, but you're looking for more.

There is a four-color, tri-fold, six-sided laminated "course card" available:

http://www.course.com/catalog/product.cfm?isbn=1-4188-4675-9&CFID=8204466&CFTOKEN=26458695

Or, if you prefer,

http://tinyurl.com/7v9h2

I believe Chuck Herbert of the Community College of Philadelphia created this, and he's allegedly been contracted to produce an Alice manual that I believe would be targetted at community college students.

You're also looking for documentation on *concepts* like "orientation", and how the PointOfView vectors can be manipulated; unfortunately, I don't know of good things for topics like that, other than the textbook which does cover many of them, often in "tips and techniques" sections.

Hope this helps!

Testuser
02-17-2006, 07:11 AM
Hello,

I starting to work with Alice, but I found that there isn't documentation about the basic characteristics of its language (behaviour of control structures, default methods and functions).

I've found a help file, but it seems to correspond to a previous version.

Does it exist this kind of doc?

Thank you in advance

Juan

pausch
02-17-2006, 08:08 PM
For now, the best source of detailed documentation of the sort you're looking for is external to the system.

There's a "course card" available

www.coursedirect.com

Alice 2.0 CourseCard
ISBN: 1-4188-4675-9
Retail single copy $3.60

There are also two textbooks (obviously more expensive):

1)
"Learning to Program with Alice"
Wanda Dann, Stephen Cooper, and Randy Pausch
Publisher: Prentice Hall
ISBN: 0-13-187289-3

NOTE: although I am an author on this book, I donate all my royalties back to Carnegie Mellon to help underwrite the software development costs.


2) (not yet available, estimated late March)

An Introduction to Programming Using Alice Charles W. Herbert
ISBN: 1-4188-3625-7

I believe both books are (will be) available through www.amazon.com


I'm sorry we don't have a detailed, free "language reference" sort of thing; we have limited staffpower and haven't done that yet.

PaulB
02-24-2006, 04:32 PM
I have started using Alice with the new textbook this past January for a semester intro to CS high school course. The students love it and I have to say it is nice to have seniors actually interested in doing class and homework.

We are now in Chapter 5, way beyond the basics. Today, one of the students made a comment that I thought was a good point. He enjoyed the challenge of getting the exercise programs to work. But he found building each world and getting the objects in the right places before doing the program was tedious and not really helpful for learning the material in Chapter 5.

So here was my suggestion. Is there some way that we could create a file space for "shells" of HW problems for the students? The students could download the shells with the objects in starting positions. I would be happy to contribute the ones we have built.

Paul Burgmayer
Great Valley High School

gabe
02-27-2006, 11:39 AM
Is there some way that we could create a file space for "shells" of HW problems for the students? The students could download the shells with the objects in starting positions. I would be happy to contribute the ones we have built.

PaulB,

That is a great idea. I can create a page on Alice.org for such templates. If you would be willing to send me what you have, I can put them up. I will also ask around to see if any other instructors have similar materials they could provide.

scooper
03-25-2006, 04:27 PM
Paul,
If you go to www.aliceprogramming.net, and click on the solutions to Chapter exercises and projects link, you can access not only the solutions but the "shells" as you call them -- the world with all of the objects in it correctly positioned, but without the code. You will need to contact Prentice Hall for access to this password protected area.
You are welcome to share these shells with your students, but please do so in such a way that they are not available to the general public.

Regards,
Steve

David B
03-07-2011, 05:47 PM
I know this thread has been dead for a while, but did any of you know that this is the first post on the Alice Forums that is still open for posting today?

arty-fishL
03-07-2011, 05:58 PM
wow, ive never heard of any of these users

David B
03-07-2011, 06:05 PM
wow, ive never heard of any of these users

Most of them probably came, used the Alice Forums for a while, and although they are gone and no longer use the Alice Forums, their remains (there accounts) still are here.

arty-fishL
03-07-2011, 06:22 PM
Except Gabe, i've heard of Gabe, everybody has heard of Gabe.

David B
03-07-2011, 06:28 PM
Except Gabe, i've heard of Gabe, everybody has heard of Gabe.

Of course everybody's heard of Gabe! He is an administrator!

AlfredoTigolo
03-08-2011, 12:38 AM
The other users sounds like they were involved in making Alice. Randy Pausch is a professor from Carnegie Mellon University. Here is his link:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~pausch/

Professors get busy with other task that they do not have time to maintain contact as much with the forum.

It will happen to you when you start working for a living.

AlfredoTigolo
03-08-2011, 12:49 AM
The other users sounds like they were involved in making Alice. Randy Pausch is a professor from Carnegie Mellon University. Here is his link:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~pausch/

Professors get busy with other task that they do not have time to maintain contact as much with the forum.

It will happen to you when you start working for a living.

Dug a little deeper about this user Randy Pausch. He is one of the Co-Founders of Alice. His legacy lives on as we learn to use Alice as students.

Keep Learning and Teaching Alice to others so you will be the next generation of Computer Scientist:

http://www.cmu.edu/homepage/beyond/2008/summer/an-enduring-legacy.shtml

Jim@SNHU
03-08-2011, 08:11 AM
The oldest, still live Alice forum... hmmm I'm humbled. ... But, as Alice evolves and as our uses for it evolve, the need to know what is current and useful is very real. So I encourage folks to post more recent suggestions than those of 6 years ago (which is a lifetime in web years) ...

For those who don't know the posters ... I'm delighted to find a few responses from Randy Pausch, ... and if you have not viewed: the Last Lecture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo) by Randy, I recommend it to you, your students. I will be recommending it later today in an IEEE Computer Society chapter seminar I'm presenting.

Enjoy.... and my thanks as an ex-academic person (and even more so as a retired industry person) ... for introducing young folks to STEM topics. Our future depends on these fields and these students!
Jim Isaak (http://www.jimisaak.com)

arty-fishL
03-08-2011, 12:25 PM
Wow, well after so much time you posted unexpectedly.

It is very unfortunate that the director of something as brilliant as Alice passed away. It is clear from what I have read that he was an inspiration to many.

arty-fishL
03-08-2011, 12:34 PM
This thread beats this one (http://www.alice.org/community/showthread.php?t=10) to the oldest place by several minutes.

beachbum111111
06-10-2011, 03:13 PM
Thats funny.

Jones989
06-13-2011, 06:33 PM
This thread beats this one (http://www.alice.org/community/showthread.php?t=10) to the oldest place by several minutes.

Lol. Literally :D

marwa saf
10-08-2013, 01:26 PM
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There's a "course card" available

www.coursedirect.com

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Alice 2.0 CourseCard
ISBN: 1-4188-4675-9
Retail single copy $3.60

There are also two textbooks (obviously more expensive):

1)
"Learning to Program with Alice"
Wanda Dann, Stephen Cooper, and Randy Pausch
Publisher: Prentice Hall
ISBN: 0-13-187289-3

NOTE: although I am an author on this book شركة تنظيف بالرياض (http://niledes.blogspot.com/), I donate all my royalties back to Carnegie Mellon to help underwrite the software development costs.


2) (not yet available, estimated late March)

An Introduction to Programming Using Alice Charles W. Herbert
ISBN: 1-4188-3625-7

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that is very helpful thank you

chickentree
10-08-2013, 06:05 PM
that is very helpful thank you

The best breakdown for Alice instructions I have found is:
http://www.dickbaldwin.com/alice/Alice0900.htm

Which is toward the bottom of:
http://www.dickbaldwin.com/tocalice.htm

Which is the table of contents for the whole Alice document.

I got these links from one of the other forums, I think it was the lounge.

These are both from Dick Baldwin, Thanks Dick.

P.S. There are several good YouTube videos on basic Alice instructions.

chriskcox
09-28-2014, 01:36 PM
I have found it very helpful to watch Youtube videos on how to operate Alice. It has just been trial and error. It takes me a long time to write code because I am just now becoming familiar with the method actions. Taking my time has really been helpful as well.:):