Don't know why my name came up - Alice will have to have a talk with you when she gets back from hunting.

Serious comment: There are a lot of objects available on the web (the only AK-47 I saw cost about $50, but the shotgun was free) but all of them I've downloaded take a lot of work to get into a format to be useable in Alice. I didn't post the shotgun model file because I still haven't got it's origin even close to correct and it's almost impossible to move predictably. Also I have found no way to save things as a group - would really like to know if such a thing exists.

Question for Gabe, et al: I know the Building Virtual Worlds (BVW) project has a policy against posting "shooter" and other "mature" games. Does such a policy also apply to this forum? (Personally, although I like a few games of that type, I think it would be a good policy here for the same reasons that it was established for BVW .)