Alice 3 - How do I drop a Dummy at the Camera?

mcavner · **Alice 3 - How do I drop a Dummy at the Camera? -** 10-24-2009, 10:12 AM

So sorry if this has been answered already - but I get an error when I try to search this forum.

How do I drop a dummy marker in Alice 3? In 2.2 it was in add objects, but I can't find it in Alice 3. Any help is greatly appreciated. I want my students to use Alice 3 in a few weeks and I need to resolve this.

mcavner · **Is there a different place I can post this message? -** 10-27-2009, 02:34 PM

I really need to know how to accomplish placing dummy markers in Alice 3. Did I post in the wrong discussion group? Please help!

10-29-2009, 04:22 PM

uhmm i cant really help you on that but do you really need to be using 3.0 anyways??? its still beta and has many many many things wrong with it! maybe check the bug list for 3.0 and see if there is no drop dummy at camera. i suggest that you use 2.0..

sorry for the lack of help... but i guess this answer is better then nothing

x2495iiii · 10-29-2009, 11:56 PM

Apologies, Alice 3 isn't my area of expertise, so I assumed someone who knew it better, like lance A, might help you.

Give me 24 hours and I'll have this answered though, alright?

Once again, I apologize and thank you for your patience.

mcavner · 10-30-2009, 02:27 PM

Has anyone figured out how to set markers yet? Is this a feature that just isn't implemented yet? Is there a list of things that aren't implemented yet in v3?

10-30-2009, 03:21 PM

uhmm i don't think it has... but in the search box type in "alice 3.0 bug list" and im pretty sure that there have been a few lists added.

x2495iiii · 10-31-2009, 12:56 AM

(Sorry for the slightly late answer)

Well, to the best of my knowledge, there's no REAL dummy objects method, you have to do it the old fashioned way, by setting up processor-friendly objects (like cones) in the positions you desire, then having the camera set it's position to those objects.

I wrote an example (which I have to zip up to post, even though it's only a measly 35kb) which demonstrates three different objects (cones) turning invisible and the camera moving to those objects to get a different point of view of the building.

I have to advise you though, Alice 3, though VERY cool, is not ready to be used by a class of learning students. The clincher to me is the fact that the undo function doesn't exist yet. I can understand not being able to edit the scene very well outside runtime, that's fine, but not being able to take back common human errors is a major turnoff for me.

mcavner · 10-31-2009, 11:46 AM

Thank you. Using invisible objects should be an ok workaround for now.

10-31-2009, 01:29 PM

yehh i agree with you x2495iiii 2.0 or 2.2 should be being used in a class room right now.

DonnySN · **Actally there is! -** 10-10-2011, 06:54 PM

If you go under Alice/Generic Models/Shapes you will see an object called axis. It serves the same purpose as a dummy.

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mcavner Junior Member Status: Offline Posts: 10 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ardmore	Alice 3 - How do I drop a Dummy at the Camera? - 10-24-2009, 10:12 AM So sorry if this has been answered already - but I get an error when I try to search this forum. How do I drop a dummy marker in Alice 3? In 2.2 it was in add objects, but I can't find it in Alice 3. Any help is greatly appreciated. I want my students to use Alice 3 in a few weeks and I need to resolve this.

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mcavner Junior Member Status: Offline Posts: 10 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ardmore	Is there a different place I can post this message? - 10-27-2009, 02:34 PM I really need to know how to accomplish placing dummy markers in Alice 3. Did I post in the wrong discussion group? Please help!

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xxledzeppelin2x3 Guest Status: Posts: n/a	10-29-2009, 04:22 PM uhmm i cant really help you on that but do you really need to be using 3.0 anyways??? its still beta and has many many many things wrong with it! maybe check the bug list for 3.0 and see if there is no drop dummy at camera. i suggest that you use 2.0.. sorry for the lack of help... but i guess this answer is better then nothing

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x2495iiii Super Moderator Status: Offline Posts: 3,508 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Somewhere in the Continental U.S.	10-29-2009, 11:56 PM Apologies, Alice 3 isn't my area of expertise, so I assumed someone who knew it better, like lance A, might help you. Give me 24 hours and I'll have this answered though, alright? Once again, I apologize and thank you for your patience. (')>

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mcavner Junior Member Status: Offline Posts: 10 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ardmore	10-30-2009, 02:27 PM Has anyone figured out how to set markers yet? Is this a feature that just isn't implemented yet? Is there a list of things that aren't implemented yet in v3?

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xxledzeppelin2x3 Guest Status: Posts: n/a	10-30-2009, 03:21 PM uhmm i don't think it has... but in the search box type in "alice 3.0 bug list" and im pretty sure that there have been a few lists added.

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mcavner Junior Member Status: Offline Posts: 10 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ardmore	10-31-2009, 11:46 AM Thank you. Using invisible objects should be an ok workaround for now.

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xxledzeppelin2x3 Guest Status: Posts: n/a	10-31-2009, 01:29 PM yehh i agree with you x2495iiii 2.0 or 2.2 should be being used in a class room right now.

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DonnySN Junior Member Status: Offline Posts: 5 Join Date: Sep 2011	Actally there is! - 10-10-2011, 06:54 PM If you go under Alice/Generic Models/Shapes you will see an object called axis. It serves the same purpose as a dummy.