online game?

beachbum111111 · **online game? -** 06-24-2010, 07:44 PM

i want to make a alice game that you can play online but i don't know how.

**Aweseome sounds awesome -** 06-25-2010, 11:51 AM

I love the idea and I too have also wanted to try something multiplayer, hopefully online. I wsh I was alot better in alice so I could tell you how, but my 4th week of class is comming up 6-29-2010 my first test. No pronlem ill blow that thing away I spend alot of time with alice and I know there alot a question I will not be able to get answaered there. I think nthe idea is great

zonedabone · 06-25-2010, 01:08 PM

Sadly, it currently can't be done with our knowledge.

We are working hard to make a game that uses the internet, but it can't be played in a web browser.

**Now that you say that it does sound kinda hard -** 06-25-2010, 01:17 PM

I did not even think of having to run the game through a browser. I can just imageing the problems there would be. I still think it would be an awesome idea. That or being able to make some animation in 3D, have the been any attemts at that?

beachbum111111 · 06-27-2010, 05:31 PM

i just hope we can find out soon

arty-fishL · **online multiplayer -** 06-28-2010, 05:29 PM

Ive got two methods of doing this that I am working on.
One uses an ftp connection, but this is slow and can be unreliable, say the server is down, like mine is now

.
The other forms a direct connection using sockets and ports and stuff between the computers. This seems to be much faster and is not affected if the server is down (cos its a host-client thing, there is no server). Problem is, so far this requires users to know the other persons connection details, ive got to work on this, and Alice freezes when trying to start the script. The python interpreter doesnt freeze on me, but Alice is less reliable.
So I will post again when I get things working more.

zonedabone · 06-28-2010, 09:19 PM

arty! there's a problem with connections between computers without a server. Two computers that aren't within the same router would have to be in the DMZ to communicate, and we ARE NOT putting Alice users' computers in the DMZ. That's why we need a server.

I'm working into getting a server to host via python on a nonstandard port. This would allow for a GREAT connection, using the same reliable features of standard website hosting. The easiest way to do this would be with a VPS, but those cost money.

jediaction · 08:56 AM

You should look at past conversations beach bum and you will see that we've had conversations like this before about online. Connecting to Alices on the same computer has been done. I'm learning about scripting in networking games and if i can figure that out, mabye i can use that knowledge for Alice. Just a thought

arty-fishL · **... -** 06-29-2010, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zonedabone

arty! there's a problem with connections between computers without a server. Two computers that aren't within the same router would have to be in the DMZ to communicate, and we ARE NOT putting Alice users' computers in the DMZ. That's why we need a server.

I'm working into getting a server to host via python on a nonstandard port. This would allow for a GREAT connection, using the same reliable features of standard website hosting. The easiest way to do this would be with a VPS, but those cost money.

I know this, there were all these discussions around this subject when Zenteo released his online thing, that's why I have started work on the insecure network, as I sent to you in a pm, if I can get this to work properly then I can work on a secure network, which I have already partially started. This is to be followed by something related to what you said above.
You cant start at the hardest end, you've got to work your way up.
and as for this:

Quote:

reliable features of standard website hosting

I disagree, so far I have had three of my accounts suddenly deleted on 3 different hosts, including everything I had stored on them.

arty-fishL · 06-29-2010, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jediaction

Alcie.

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beachbum111111 Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 852 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: e	online game? - 06-24-2010, 07:44 PM i want to make a alice game that you can play online but i don't know how.

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kjobrien Guest Status: Posts: n/a	Aweseome sounds awesome - 06-25-2010, 11:51 AM I love the idea and I too have also wanted to try something multiplayer, hopefully online. I wsh I was alot better in alice so I could tell you how, but my 4th week of class is comming up 6-29-2010 my first test. No pronlem ill blow that thing away I spend alot of time with alice and I know there alot a question I will not be able to get answaered there. I think nthe idea is great

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zonedabone Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 577 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: In the interwebs	06-25-2010, 01:08 PM Sadly, it currently can't be done with our knowledge. We are working hard to make a game that uses the internet, but it can't be played in a web browser. 'Apple Macintosh' - An anagram of 'Complaints Heap' M.A.C.I.N.T.O.S.H. - Machine Always Crashes, If Not, The Operating System Hangs. You're such a mac person.

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kjobrien Guest Status: Posts: n/a	Now that you say that it does sound kinda hard - 06-25-2010, 01:17 PM I did not even think of having to run the game through a browser. I can just imageing the problems there would be. I still think it would be an awesome idea. That or being able to make some animation in 3D, have the been any attemts at that?

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beachbum111111 Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 852 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: e	06-27-2010, 05:31 PM i just hope we can find out soon

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arty-fishL Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 1,878 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In the corner of your eye	online multiplayer - 06-28-2010, 05:29 PM Ive got two methods of doing this that I am working on. One uses an ftp connection, but this is slow and can be unreliable, say the server is down, like mine is now. The other forms a direct connection using sockets and ports and stuff between the computers. This seems to be much faster and is not affected if the server is down (cos its a host-client thing, there is no server). Problem is, so far this requires users to know the other persons connection details, ive got to work on this, and Alice freezes when trying to start the script. The python interpreter doesnt freeze on me, but Alice is less reliable. So I will post again when I get things working more. █░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█ █░░▓░░░░░░░▓░░░░░░░░░░░▓▓░░▓░░░░░░▓░░░▓░░░░█ █░▓░▓░▓▓▓░▓▓▓░▓░▓░░░░░░▓▒▒░░▒░░▓▓░▓▓▓░▓▒░░░█ █░▓▓▓▒▓▒▒▒░▓▒▒▓▓▓▒▓▓▓░▓▓▓░░▓░░░▓▒▒▓▒▓▒▓▒░░░█ █░▓▒▓▒▓▒░░░▓▓░░▒▓▒░▒▒▒░▓▒▒░▓▓░▓▓▒░▓▒▓▒▓▒░░░█ █░▓▒▓▒░▒░░░░▒▒▓▓▓▒░░░░▓▓▒░░░▒▒░▒▒░░▒░▒▓▓▓░░█ █░░▒░▒░░░░░░░░░▒▒▒░░░░░▒▒░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▒▒▒░█ █░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█ I have mostly moved on from Alice, but may still respond to messages if important [¬º-°]¬

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zonedabone Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 577 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: In the interwebs	06-28-2010, 09:19 PM arty! there's a problem with connections between computers without a server. Two computers that aren't within the same router would have to be in the DMZ to communicate, and we ARE NOT putting Alice users' computers in the DMZ. That's why we need a server. I'm working into getting a server to host via python on a nonstandard port. This would allow for a GREAT connection, using the same reliable features of standard website hosting. The easiest way to do this would be with a VPS, but those cost money. 'Apple Macintosh' - An anagram of 'Complaints Heap' M.A.C.I.N.T.O.S.H. - Machine Always Crashes, If Not, The Operating System Hangs. You're such a mac person.

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jediaction Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 5,064 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bel Air, Maryland	06-28-2010, 09:52 PM You should look at past conversations beach bum and you will see that we've had conversations like this before about online. Connecting to Alices on the same computer has been done. I'm learning about scripting in networking games and if i can figure that out, mabye i can use that knowledge for Alice. Just a thought Website: www.salokingames.com FaceBook: www.facebook.com/SalokinGames Last edited by jediaction; 10-27-2010 at 08:56 AM.